Release Date: March 06, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: What gives you confidence in a strong ramp in the second half of 2025, given the guidance for a high single-digit decline in the first half? Also, what are your assumptions for demand, particularly in the automotive sector? A: Michael Heckmeier, CEO: We have seen some customers asking for volume postponements from H1 to H2, which aligns with the general industry sentiment that H2 should be better. Regarding automotive demand, we see growth driven by electro mobility and server market dynamics. However, macroeconomic factors could affect PC and smartphone unit growth, making our 7% growth assumption balanced with some risks and opportunities.
Q: Can you provide more color on inventory levels, particularly in logic, and how they compare to your peers? A: Michael Heckmeier, CEO: We gather information from public sources and direct customer insights. Logic inventories are close to normal, unlike memory and power segments, which are more elevated. Our visibility comes from aligning customer insights with publicly available data.
Q: How does spot market pricing differ from LTA pricing for 12-inch wafers, and what pricing is embedded in your guidance for this year? A: Michael Heckmeier, CEO: Two-thirds of our business is in LTAs, with prices honored by customers. Spot market pricing is more variable, with smaller diameters facing more pressure. We saw some price effects in 2024, which will continue in 2025, but two-thirds of our business remains unaffected by these changes.
Q: Are you seeing any replacement of demand for your wafers by local Chinese manufacturers, particularly for 300mm wafers? A: Michael Heckmeier, CEO: The market situation in China is stable, with no significant changes in market share. Local Chinese manufacturers are more advanced in smaller diameters, but there are still gaps in 300mm, especially in high-end and leading-edge segments.
Q: What is the impact of the 150mm wafer phase-out on sales and costs, and how does it affect your financials? A: Michael Heckmeier, CEO: The 150mm business is a minor part of our sales, with a mid-single-digit share in 2024, declining in 2025. The phase-out is progressing smoothly, with minimal impact on costs. Claudia Schmitt, CFO: The financial impact is minor, with no significant effect on COGS.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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