Release Date: February 27, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you explain the factors affecting the adjusted EBITDA guidance for 2025, particularly the margin decline? A: Brandon Sim, President and CEO, explained that the margin decline is primarily due to the integration of Collaborative Health Systems (CHS), which is expected to break even late in the year. The guidance assumes a consistent 4.5% trend and continued investments, impacting the overall margin.
Q: How do you plan to achieve your goal of deleveraging to below 2 times within nine months post-acquisition? A: Brandon Sim noted that free cash flow was affected by one-time items in 2024, but these are expected to be recouped in 2025. Historically, free cash flow conversion has been around 45% of adjusted EBITDA, and this is expected to increase in 2025.
Q: With Proposition 35 passed and redetermination headwinds subsiding, how will this affect Medicaid trends and earnings? A: Brandon Sim stated that while Medicaid trends were higher than expected in 2024, no rate relief from Proposition 35 is included in the 2025 guidance. The guidance remains conservative, assuming similar trends as in 2024 without renegotiations or additional reimbursement.
Q: What are the expected costs and impacts of the CHS and Prospect Health acquisitions? A: Brandon Sim mentioned that around $5 to $10 million in integration costs are expected, regardless of when the Prospect transaction closes. The 2025 guidance includes these expenses, and the Prospect acquisition is anticipated to contribute approximately $81 million in adjusted EBITDA.
Q: How are the Houston and Las Vegas markets performing, and what is the outlook for these regions? A: Brandon Sim reported that both markets are ramping up as expected. Nevada is expected to break even in early 2025, while Texas is on track to break even in 2025 and turn a profit by late 2025 or early 2026. Non-California business is projected to represent around 15% of revenue in 2025.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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