Release Date: February 05, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Can you explain why you expect group disability to remain favorable over the midterm, despite concerns it might revert to the mean? A: Steven Zabel, CFO, explained that the favorable outlook is due to stable incidence levels and improved claim recoveries, which have been a decade-long trend. The company has embedded these improvements into its claims management process, making them sustainable. Christopher Pyne, EVP of Group Benefits, added that the competitive environment remains, but the focus on high-quality coverage and connectivity with human capital management platforms helps maintain pricing stability.
Q: How do you view the market for long-term care risk transfer, especially in light of recent transactions by peers? A: Richard McKenney, CEO, noted that recent transactions indicate a developing market for LTC risk transfer. The company is actively exploring opportunities but emphasizes that these transactions are complex and must make strategic sense for Unum. The goal is to eventually transfer LTC risk to focus on core business growth.
Q: With strong capital generation, why is the share buyback range conservative? Are you considering M&A? A: Richard McKenney, CEO, stated that the company prioritizes organic growth and M&A to enhance capabilities and distribution. The wide buyback range of $500 million to $1 billion allows flexibility to respond to market conditions and potential M&A opportunities. The company remains committed to returning capital to shareholders through dividends and buybacks.
Q: What caused the weaker results in the voluntary benefits segment in Q4, and what is the outlook for 2025? A: Steven Zabel, CFO, explained that the volatility in the voluntary benefits segment was due to unfavorable claims experience in various product lines. However, these impacts are viewed as transitory, and the company expects earnings to return to normal levels in 2025, with quarterly earnings around $121 million.
Q: Can you discuss the pricing trends for Unum US renewals in 2025, particularly in group disability and group life? A: Christopher Pyne, EVP of Group Benefits, noted that the company experienced strong persistency in 2024 due to its capabilities and stable pricing. While the market remains competitive, the focus on providing value and solving customer challenges helps maintain pricing stability. The company expects to continue this approach in 2025.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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