Release Date: January 30, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: The $0.72 EAD seems to equate to around a 15% net ROE. Is this level of EAD in line with the current normalized economic return of your portfolio? A: Generally, over the quarter, we didn't see much change in spreads. Agency is at 15% to 17%, likely at the higher end. With lower expenses due to the equity raise, this is reasonably contextual. We don't have long-term guidance, but for Q1, earnings should be consistent with Q4.
Q: Given the run rate of earnings, is it fair to say the dividend looks well covered? A: Yes, for 2025, the dividend feels safe. We evaluate the dividend every quarter with our Board, focusing on durability. We feel optimistic about maintaining this run rate.
Q: How is the competitive landscape in the MSR space changing, especially with lower origination volumes expected in 2025? A: Lower volume and profitability mean lenders are less able to retain MSR, needing to monetize quickly. We're excited about this opportunity and are growing our network of partners needing this execution.
Q: Can you provide thoughts on GSE reform and the expanded credit market? A: The hurdles for meaningful GSE transformation are high. The GSEs are effective in providing housing finance, and we hope this is recognized. We expect the GSE footprint to reduce, opening opportunities for private capital, which we're well-positioned to provide.
Q: How do you view the outlook for volatility this year, and how does it impact your return ranges? A: Volatility can erode returns, especially in Agency MBS. We manage the portfolio to minimize hedging costs. In residential credit and MSR, volatility impact is minimal. We expect better rate volatility outlook and contained spread volatility, which supports agency market investments.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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