Release Date: October 24, 2024
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: How is Annaly Capital Management managing the current market volatility and political uncertainty? A: David Finkelstein, CEO and CIO, explained that Annaly entered the quarter with minimal rate risk and slightly reduced leverage. They proactively managed the portfolio by selling approximately $2 billion in Agency MBS due to increased volatility and higher rates. Annaly is maintaining a conservative position, especially with the upcoming election, and is comfortable with their current duration exposure. They are prepared to manage rate and basis risk as the situation evolves.
Q: Can you provide an update on Annaly's book value and dividend outlook? A: David Finkelstein noted that the book value was down just over 1% pre-dividend accrual. Regarding the dividend, Annaly is comfortable with the current payout through 2024 and expects to modestly earn more in Q4 than in Q3. The company is focused on economic return and delivering the dividend, with the Fed's posture providing a potential tailwind for 2025.
Q: How is Annaly approaching capital allocation across its three business lines? A: David Finkelstein stated that all three business lines are generating good returns, but the agency sector looks most attractive given the current rate cycle. While they aim to grow the residential credit business, they are cautious with credit at this point in the cycle. MSR growth is episodic, and they will be aggressive as opportunities arise. Overall, agency MBS is receiving the marginal dollar, but they maintain a balanced approach.
Q: Are there any signs of stress in the securitization data, particularly in non-QM loans? A: Michael Fania, Deputy CIO and Head of Residential Credit, indicated that Annaly's borrowers are typically high-income, sophisticated individuals, and they are not seeing stress similar to lower-end consumers. The delinquency rate in their portfolio is low, and they feel confident in the credit quality of their borrowers.
Q: How does the Rocket Mortgage partnership impact Annaly's MSR strategy? A: Ken Adler, Head of Mortgage Servicing Rights, explained that the partnership with Rocket Mortgage enhances Annaly's recapture capabilities and competitiveness in purchasing new MSRs. The increased competition among subservicers is leading to better pricing and economics for Annaly.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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